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[-] natural_motions@lemmynsfw.com 64 points 1 month ago

Somehow he found a way to insult English and French speakers in one fell swoop

[-] ScruffyDucky@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Chad(wick) move

[-] karashta@lemm.ee 56 points 1 month ago

If this is his thought process, he should take it a step further.

French is just badly pronounced Latin.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

My mother (who is french) describes the language as "Latin, but mumbled around a cigarette"

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 month ago

With more phlegm.

So what’s German then? A bunch of that overlaps with English words too from my recollection.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

german is just language lego - you just keep building new words from old parts.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Swedish checking in.

[-] 6daemonbag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

I choose to believe French is just ugly Catalan

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

it's all PIE

always has been

[-] force@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

But in this case French actually is Latin. English isn't a descendant of French, but French is derived mostly from Latin

[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Hey, it's also German with bad syntax.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Or Dutch with less silly spelling.

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Looking down on dutch spelling, while writing im English... Wild.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 month ago

...English is only 30% or so French, and essentially just adjectives. Take out adjectives and we are German babies.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 13 points 1 month ago

And most of the French has Germanic synonyms.

It's actually pretty fascinating to sit down with a work translated from Old to Middle to Modern English and see the language drift in action.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

I will have to try that sometime. What's a good piece of literature to look at that a beginner could visually make sense of?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 11 points 1 month ago

Beowulf is probably the most relevant and easiest to find in various evolutions, you can also find spoken versions in Old, Middle, and modern. Chaucer's stories are also popular if you find the Old English too dense, Middle English is obviously a lot more approachable.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks for this. I will have to give it a shot.

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Forgot we read this in high school

[-] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

English is just a bunch of bludgeoned languages hiding under a trench coat, acting shady in the alleyway, I swear.

[-] janus2@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
—James D. Nicoll


[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unironically linguistic victim blaming, given most of the "loanwords" were French forced onto the language by the Normans. Who were basically just French speaking Vikings anyways.

Then there there was the Renaissance and Enlightenment obsession with the "Classics" and now you have to say "per diem" instead of "by the day" or "daily pay"

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Sure, there's plenty of French in English, but there's an English equivalent for most French words. We'd be fine eating cow instead of beef or pig instead of pork. It may sound a little strange but English should still be very usable if we removed the French root words.

[-] agissilver@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago
[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

That's just Frisian with extra steps.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Don't show this to the sovereign citizens. They'll start declaring that any government document with borrowed words from a foreign language means you can't be court-martialed twice for the same offense due to habeas corpus.

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[-] quinkin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Le bollocks

[-] snf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Someone tell the Quebec nationalists, maybe then we can concentrate on more important things than english-only trash cans

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Quebec can't even speak proper French. I still remember the story of the French immigrant who failed the French test in Quebec. Btw Quebec makes you take a French test if you want to live there cause they're fascists. The rest of Canada should make them test in English before the leave Quebec.

[-] drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

I remember a story awhile back where a French researcher or something wrote a whole paper in french, except one page was in english. Well the Quebequois fuzz apparently thought they couldn't speak french well enough.

[-] _Cid_@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Well at least the english are able to count properly...

[-] xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

French is just badly pronounced French.

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 month ago

As a German I hate both languages

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

well yeah German is a lovely language... just flows right off the Zunge.

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[-] force@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

""Linguist"" as if French prescriptivists can seriously be called linguists

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
[-] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

And Dutch and German

[-] pigup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago
[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Since language is in a constant state of flux and never quite settles in any solid form, ever changing and evolving. This linguist can fuck off....

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Oh no, that's going to make the mail- reading gammon mad.

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