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Teams also doesn't support multiple "work" accounts, so I had to boot up a laptop to accept the call. 🤷

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[-] Kallioapina@lemmy.world 239 points 4 months ago

Well they are just lying, it works fine with Firefox and has worked fine for years. I live in the EU though. Sucks to be american these days, I guess?

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 93 points 4 months ago

These days? It's sucked to be an American for decades.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

Better than being in a third world country ig. But it's frustrating, because our issues are generally fueled by greed and were entirely preventable

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[-] meekah@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

I have the same issue, but I am also in the EU. however, I just used an extension to spoof my user agent and now it works fine. there is some weird behavior sometimes, like when I call someone it doesn't actually ring the other person etc.

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[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 168 points 4 months ago

Just one more upside to Firefox, less interruptions during work~

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 146 points 4 months ago

Its cool how all these companies are allowed to just lie to you about their products functionality.

[-] drolex@sopuli.xyz 46 points 4 months ago

If you use Firefox, you are a communist; and if you are a communist why would you need the glorious tools of corporate communication? Just make do with rotten turnips as Lenin intended

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago

This whooshed a lot o' folks.

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[-] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 102 points 4 months ago

This team block is so agressive to firefox users that it's literaly hardcoded as if web browser firefox then deny.

You cam override that by changing a parameter in firefox to advertise itself as another we browser. I don't remeber how i did it but, once i had to use firefox and i just changed that stting in order to advertise me to the host as a edge browser. With that changed i could use teams as normal.

Epic drm.

[-] spongebue@lemmy.world 73 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

When I'd search "(location) weather" on Google (e: in Chrome) and I'd get a really nice at a glance forecast right on top. Do the same thing in Firefox and I'd get a whole bunch of weather websites I could go to. The former obviously being a better, more direct experience. I found an extension that fools Google into thinking it's Chrome and all works fine with that.

I'm amazed if this doesn't violate some antitrust regulation

[-] Asnabel@szmer.info 14 points 4 months ago

Just checked: Duck Duck go displays the forecast right on top.

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[-] jflorez@sh.itjust.works 93 points 4 months ago

This is not mildly infuriating this is the free internet being eroded through Google’s control of Chrome

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[-] dan@upvote.au 84 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is likely legacy code. Firefox used to have a lot of issues with WebRTC, so practically all video conferencing systems blocked it. Teams probably has some "block Firefox because it doesn't work properly" check that was written 5+ years ago and none of the current developers are even aware of its existence.

Well-coded ones did feature detection instead of checking the user-agent, meaning they automatically started allowing Firefox as soon as it implemented all the required features.

Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn't (or they're so buggy to the point where they're unusable), but that's relatively rare.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago

Feature detection is usually the way to go. If your website / webapp depends on a particular feature, check if that specific feature exists, rather than checking for particular browsers. Browser checks are still needed in some cases, for example Safari sometimes reports that it supports particular features but it really doesn’t (or they’re so buggy to the point where they’re unusable), but that’s relatively rare.

This is tough to implement when the feature is present, but implemented wrong. Or, even worse, when it's implemented right, but the most popular browser implements it wrong and almost everyone else follow suit for compatibility reasons, except for one that takes the stance of following standards. I know safari is notorious for this, think pale moon had those issues, too, and there are still echoes from the past from pre-chrome internet explorer, thank god it's finally dead.

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 4 months ago

Chrome is the new Internet Explorer.

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[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

This is indeed the case. I use firefox daily, including for teams. I have to fake my user agent to do it, but it works. Its purely teams just saying fuck you to firefox..

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[-] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 74 points 4 months ago

Try changing your user agent to a Chrome one (e.g. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/120.0.0.0 Safari/537.36). Works a treat!

[-] waigl@lemmy.world 60 points 4 months ago

Sidenote:

HTTP user agents have become absolutely bonkers over the years.

[-] lawrence@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

I like how this guy explains the history of browser user agents and why they have this strange configuration today:

https://webaim.org/blog/user-agent-string-history/

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[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 14 points 4 months ago

Feels like we're back to 2007 again when spoofing firefox user agent to IE would fix websites not working properly, only now we spoof it to chrome instead.

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[-] Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 4 months ago

Just change your Useragent, Microsoft is a bunch of dummies and didn't even bother to code it in a way that makes sense as a DRM lmfao.

[-] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I had to look it up, here's what I found (please correct me if I got it wrong):

To change the user agent in Firefox, you can use the built-in Developer Tools. Here's how you can do it:

  1. Open Firefox.
  2. Press Ctrl + Shift + I on Windows or Cmd + Option + I on macOS to open the Developer Tools.
  3. Click on the "Network" tab.
  4. Look for a small icon that looks like a mobile phone and a tablet together, usually located at the top-right of the Network tab. This is the "Responsive Design Mode" button. Click on it.
  5. Once in Responsive Design Mode, you'll see a dropdown menu at the top of the screen where you can select different user agents (like various mobile devices, different browsers, etc.).

Remember, changing the user agent can sometimes lead to unexpected behavior on websites, as it tells the website that you're using a different browser or device than you actually are. This is usually used for testing and development purposes.

Edit: a word

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 months ago

And here I was just setting general.useragent.override each time.

Fun fact: Some time in past Firefox used to support per-domain overrides (without add-ons).

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[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 43 points 4 months ago

Ms teams sucks in a big way

[-] vermyndax@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Teams won't even open on Safari. Must use a chrome-based browser (like... Edge!)

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[-] eager_eagle@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

given the love Teams receives, it not working in [ insert browser ] is definitely a feature

[-] Evkob@lemmy.ca 20 points 4 months ago

Have you tried changing your user agent string to Chrome? I know it can sometimes sidestep these types of "errors". It can be changed manually through about:config under general.useragent.override, or there exists plenty of addons to switch it more easily.

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[-] frankenswine@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

You can make it work by changing your UserAgent string (there's plugins for that) to some older chrome version to make things work.

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[-] betz24@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 4 months ago

I works for me without a user agent change if I enter through the Microsoft 365 teams workspace and not a teams share link.

[-] email@sh.itjust.works 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Im sure if you swap user agent to chrome they wouldn't give a fuck

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[-] seth@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

I just had to switch to New Teams last week because Classic teams just continued to have more and more call drops and connection problems. The New Teams doesn't even have an option to change the notification sound, and now I can't move the banner that appears in the top center of the screen when screen sharing that covers up tabs in browsers and the main preferences/search dialog in VS Code...also a Microsoft product. Apparently no one at Microsoft noticed that one of their most used products used in the most normal way blocks out important functionality from another one of them.

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[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Teams also doesn’t support multiple “work” accounts

Firefox lets you have completely separate profiles with separate accounts (URL: about:profiles, it can't be linked to for security reasons) and also an official extension to have another layer of profiles on a per-tab basis (containers).

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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

The other issue I have with conferencing apps on browsers is that they request access to your microphone even if it's a one-way audio session (i.e. webinar). It should be set in a way where you can separately join a meeting with audio without allowing access to your microphone.

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[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

I feel validated, reading about my daily struggles with Teams.

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