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[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 85 points 6 months ago

I shall look forward to witness a ketamine-fueled Musk disabling all Teslas in Europe out of spite while tweeting "Fuck you Europe, this wouldn't have happened under Hitler".

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Isn't it wild how this is actually realistic, now?

A few years ago I would have laughed at that absurdity, but then Elon straight up said some shit like "facts!" to antisemitic conspiracy theories and now I'm like...

[-] undeffeined@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 months ago

After the latest interview where he told advertisers that pulled off twitter to go fuck themselves, yeah, very plausible.

To think that at some point I admired him... oh well, we all make mistakes

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 7 points 6 months ago
[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I can't tell if you just used Tony Stark as a verb or a butt plug, but I would like to see you use Elon Musk in the same way.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

That was done very much so to move the blame off of him for Twitter's failure.

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 63 points 6 months ago

Unions are effective at helping people obtain a livable wage. Support unions!

[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 63 points 6 months ago
[-] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 54 points 6 months ago

This is putting heavy pressure on Tesla, Scandinavia is a huge market for them. And if the strike spreads to Germany, which it very well could, it could mean the cease of operation of the Model Y factory in Berlin, which would be devastating to them. I hope Musk manages to fuck up enough that he's ousted from day to day control of the company.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

I dream of the day the board / shareholders oust him. They don't need him. He adds no value. He only owns like 11% of the stock or thereabouts. He's nothing but a POS. Why they haven't yet only makes me think there are some agreements / clauses in place we're not aware of...but I hope not. Maybe 2024 will bring some respite.

I imagine...Twitter closure, Tesla ousting, it would be amazing.

[-] agrammatic@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago

And if the strike spreads to Germany, which it very well could, it could mean the cease of operation of the Model Y factory in Berlin, which would be devastating to them.

A big problem is that Germany's labour laws do not allow sympathy or political strikes. A strike can only be legally called in association with a collective bargaining agreement negotiation/dispute.

Germany will be the weak link in this cross-country wave of strikes.

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Fuck that shit. Anyone calling a strike illegal does so because they know they have a losing hand.

[-] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Wouldn't that be lovely

[-] anachronist@midwest.social 1 points 6 months ago

I hope Musk manages to fuck up enough that he’s ousted from day to day control of the company.

The thing is, he was supposed to step down as a condition of his settlement with the SEC over fraudulently pretending he was going to take Tesla private.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 50 points 6 months ago

I love this for him. I hope it makes his hair plugs fall out.

[-] harcesz@szmer.info 31 points 6 months ago
[-] WhiteHotaru@feddit.de 20 points 6 months ago
[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 19 points 6 months ago

They may have to unload them in the UK (where sympathy strikes have been illegal since the Thatcher era) and truck them all the way to Sweden.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The UK is not in the EU. That would cost more customs delays, formalities, and costs.

Musk is an idiot. There's a reason companies like McDonalds cooperate with unions in Europe. It's cheaper.

[-] TylerDurdenJunior@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago

McDonald's actually learned the hard way to work with union agreements when they first opened in Denmark.

Here is an interesting read about it:

https://mattbruenig.com/2021/09/20/when-mcdonalds-came-to-denmark/

[-] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 months ago

Fantastic read, thank you

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[-] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Good luck trucking across the sea. And having to deal with the brexit bureaucracy

[-] tryptaminev@feddit.de 11 points 6 months ago

You know there is both a tunnel between UK and France and a bridge between Denmark and Sweden?

Doesnt make it an efficient option, but it is possible.

[-] Algaroth@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

True. Still gotta deal with Brexit bureaucracy. They can't just transport things from UK into EU without a ton of permits, fees and paperwork. Then they have to truck through two countries striking against them. Every avenue Tesla tries to get around unions can be shut down with another sympathy strike. Gas station workers can refuse to sell them gas for instance. If they're electrical vehicles, well, there's already a strike in place. Unions can outlast Elon.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Don't the strikes need to target Tesla?

Like repair shops could prevent repairs because to get parts they need to interact with Tesla, which they will refuse, but if a Tesla needed gasoline, can a gas shop actually prevent a customer from filling their tank?

The strike isn't against the customer, so I'm not sure that'd be allowed?

[-] Algaroth@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

The strikes would target trucks transporting Teslas. Not actual Teslas.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

So you're saying gas stations refusing to fuel trucks transporting a Tesla? If those trucks are a 3rd party company would that be okay? Can they sympathy strike against a different entity?

100% agree if they are teala employees operating the trucks.

This whole thing and all the side implications are fascinating to watch unfold

[-] Algaroth@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

More likely that third party company would be seen as scabs or join the strike. If seen as scabs they will get the same treatment as Tesla and individuals can even be banned from the Union.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Eventually I think Tesla wouldn't use someone that'd also join the strike, so probably a foreign non unionized trucker, but treating then as scabs make sense then and blocking them that way.

Thanks for all the insight and discussion!

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